It shuts off some natural foils like Swords to Plowshares and Chaos Warp, but it gets swept up in most wraths and dies to a stray Ravenous Chupacabra or any plethora of ETB removal
We're still in that phase with these where these go back to our very first brainstorms, Heggen tells me, saying they are still working through the top of the list of ideas they initially came up with years ago while continuing to add to that list too
It it not the consistency of making two dorks that limits how busted your Vengevine will be but rather your access to good discard outlets
Cards like Cloudstone Curio and Cowardice do great things here as well, returning creatures to be copied over and over again
Keeping a six-mana Planeswalker alive isn't always easy, but if Chandra sticks around, she can pressure the table, clear the board, and refill your hand turn after turn until everyone else starts feeling the heat
And Edgar, Charmed Groom is a great fit - providing both tokens and power, like a less mighty but more durable version of the original